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Where to start?

Posted at 15:04:57 Wed 6 Oct 2021

Hello everyone, glad to finally be here.

I have wanted a Hornby train set since I was a child, and now I have the means to finally invest some time and money, I’m lost at where to start. I have recently begun to board my loft space, as it’s something I’ve long wanted to do, and realised I would have enough space to assemble some track, and later on, some landscape.

I have begun to watch beginner videos and how to get started, but I have to admit that I feel a bit overwhelmed with where to start.

My plan was to start with a starter set, more specifically the R1271M iTraveller 6000 set, because it comes with the HM 6000 which I really like the look of.

I have come here to ask the experts what are a few of the do's and don’ts when starting out? It feels like this is a hobby where the sky is the limit in terms of how much you can spend, both in time and money, and how much space you can use.

I really like the look of the DDC, but is this for more advanced users, or is it something you can use from the start?

The RailMaster seems like something for large scale setups with multiple trains and connections, so is this something I should avoid until I’m more comfortable with how everything works?

I did try to keep this short, but there is so much I’d like to ask. For now, I’ll leave it here. If you have read all the way to this point, thank you, you’re a real trooper.

Thanks all.

My name is long, so just call me Lee.

Last Edited 15:08:30 Wed 6 Oct 2021

Posted at 10:56:30 Thu 13 Jan 2022

This may be helpful. Gleaned from another forum

https://d28lcup14p4e72.cloudfront.net/228673/7490681/program%20track%20SW%20PowerCab.pdf


That circuit is only of use for a controller without a Prog output, i.e. the Track output is switched internally by the controller for running or programming purposes. The Hornby Select is of that type.

My circuit is the very opposite of that, i.e. the dual purpose track is connected to the switch centre and the controller Prog and Track outputs are connected to the switch outer feeds.

http://www.halton96th.org.uk/robs_rails.html


Posted 10:56:30 Thu 13 Jan 2022

Posted at 13:29:12 Thu 13 Jan 2022

Chrissaf, is the track piece in your picture homemade?

My name is long, so just call me Lee.


Posted 13:29:12 Thu 13 Jan 2022

Posted at 14:03:41 Thu 13 Jan 2022

Yes it was 'homemade'.

The track part was some left over PECO flex track that has been pinned down. The wood part was carved out of a length of 2 x 2 timber using my slide mitre bench saw. Then sanded smooth and coated with lacquer. The black bits are off-cuts of neoprene rubber glued on with contact adhesive. The wires are soldered to the end of the metal rails.

It could just as easily been a plain piece of timber battern with the track fitted with clip on buffers.

But since I have the woodworking tools and the skill to use them, I put something together that I think looks the part.

Chris.......Making the 'Wood in the Trees' visible.

Last Edited 14:07:34 Thu 13 Jan 2022
Posted 14:03:41 Thu 13 Jan 2022

Posted at 22:02:12 Sun 16 Jan 2022

Very basic question here. The Hornby Elite obviously comes with a wire that connects the controller to the track, but if I want to add another power track piece, what wire do I use?

And how do you wire it? Just put both wires into the main track socket, then feed them to the track?

My name is long, so just call me Lee.

Last Edited 23:18:08 Sun 16 Jan 2022
Posted 22:02:12 Sun 16 Jan 2022

Posted at 23:25:20 Sun 16 Jan 2022

The wire that comes with the Elite is close to if not exactly compatible with the 16/0.2mm specification. But I would suggest that 24/0.2mm wire would be preferred.

You could twist the two track feeds together and insert them into the 'Track' output on the Elite, that would be one way. Another way would be to use a short length of 32/0.2mm wire pair between the Elite and a 5 amp Electrical screw terminal strip, then parallel the two track feed wire pairs into that. Whichever way you do it, be very careful to get the track feeds the right (same) way round, you will know if you have them crossed as the Elite will error when powered up with 'short circuit' detection.

If you are making your own wire feeds to go into the power tracks, then you will need Hornby X8011 crimp terminals to terminate on the wires that fit into the track power sockets. The X8011 can be purchased off ebay in smaller quantities than Hornby's pack of 50, but this does work out more expensive on a per crimp terminal basis. Last time I checked, they were out of stock in the Hornby shop. Exactly the same terminals are sold by Guagemaster with their own GM part number, but they are very expensive compared to Hornby and sold in packs of 6. Unless they are back in stock from Hornby, the best alternative is an ebay purchase for a pack of 10.

Chris.......Making the 'Wood in the Trees' visible.

Last Edited 23:37:07 Sun 16 Jan 2022
Posted 23:25:20 Sun 16 Jan 2022

Posted at 12:17:45 Tue 18 Jan 2022

@DarkRedCape I started my first layout a few months ago, at the age of 66. I spent a lot of time on YouTube watching 'how to' videos - and in this and another forum asking basic questions (I still do). I even got help on designing my layout from forum members.

I have started my own YouTube channel as a 'BRANCHLINE' to my photography teaching channel.

You might like to have a look at the first 9 videos I have made so far - which cover everything from choosing the locos to buying the baseboard and wiring it. I hope it's helpful.

BRANCHLINE: Musings on Model Railways - YouTube

BRANCHLINE: My YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/muas24td

Last Edited 12:48:32 Tue 18 Jan 2022
Posted 12:17:45 Tue 18 Jan 2022

Posted at 22:17:02 Tue 18 Jan 2022

Hi Stephen, I’ve also spent a lot of time watching videos on how to do things, reading guides, and of course, getting lots of help from the good people here on the forum.

Thanks to them I went from knowing nothing to having a pretty good idea how to get started and what I need for a basic setup.

I liked your videos, especially the one about shunting. Thank you very much for your input, I really appreciate it.

My name is long, so just call me Lee.

Last Edited 09:51:47 Wed 19 Jan 2022
Posted 22:17:02 Tue 18 Jan 2022

Posted at 20:23:21 Thu 20 Jan 2022

I was in your position a year ago, at which point I levitated into the roof space.

I started a couple of years ago with an 8' x 4' board I bought complete from ebay with hornby track mat and extension packs X, Y and Z [I forget which] with the mixed goods DCC pack running.

This soon developed and now encompasses the entire loft space on one side of the house; 14' x 9'.

I made many mistakes, most of which were impulsive but, thanks to forums such as this, developed as my video clip shows.

This shown is my layout with my 'newer' locomotives, my steam engines are in my drawers underneath.

I swap every couple of months.

As you'll see I'm not one for an 'era' and I've yet to really start modelling, I still tweak!!!

This clip is eight months old, numerous layout tweaks and tiny improvements have been made since then, although as you can see I've spent a lot of joyful hours building a lot of metcalfe kits!

Mine is more of a trainset, rather than a model railway.

I'd strongly recommend DCC and, as I did, invest in a layout programme. I use railmodellerpro for the mac.

I'd also recommend you build up very slowly and, if you're unhappy with, for example, the quality of the railroad models [which, when I started, were good value for money], buy one of the premium models instead of two of something you're only relatively happy with.

I rushed into wanting to fill my space and then found I wanted the better quality locomotives.

Copy and paste the following link into your browser if you care to see a short video clip of my layout:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6sylgvm8hp610u8/20210504_220236.mp4?dl=0

Z21 - OO - Just playing with trains. My name's not Will, it's Rob, but you can call me anything you like.

Last Edited 09:49:35 Fri 21 Jan 2022
Posted 20:23:21 Thu 20 Jan 2022

Posted at 09:18:49 Fri 21 Jan 2022

Nice layout. I'm with you on the Metcalfe kits, they're brilliant.

Last Edited 09:49:57 Fri 21 Jan 2022
Posted 09:18:49 Fri 21 Jan 2022

Posted at 13:46:27 Fri 21 Jan 2022

Nice layout. I'm with you on the Metcalfe kits, they're brilliant.


They are indeed.

Excellent value for money and quite fun to build.

Z21 - OO - Just playing with trains. My name's not Will, it's Rob, but you can call me anything you like.


Posted 13:46:27 Fri 21 Jan 2022

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